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Oleksii's avatar

A minor point I guess, but if you look at both AA index and lmarena.ai, the best open (with 100% open post-training data, software and recipe) from US is indeed Llama-based but it is not Llama-4-Maverick.

Nathan Lambert's avatar

Is a good point. Will keep this in mind for some more stuff we have coming soon :)

blaine wishart's avatar

I wonder what is really happening in China? Only China has been to the dark side of the moon. Kimi is from moonshot.ai. Evidently the staff is full of Pink Floyd fans. I am definitely not saying China has a software factory on the dark side of the moon. I’m saying there is a Miles Davis level cool factor at work.

Rangachari Anand's avatar

After reading this, I have to wonder what Meta is going to achieve by incinerating money trying to catch up

Nathan Lambert's avatar

Not open source prolly, but they can make models for products

Meta ai to the moon